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Dark Souls II has a new director in Yui Tanimura. We were only able to spend a few minutes Tanimura after seeing Dark Souls II in action at E3, and decided to ask him broad questions about difficulty in games. We also wanted to know what kind of games he's playing outside of Dark Souls II, and why we won't be seeing Dark Souls II on next-gen systems.
What’s the difference between a hard game, and an unnecessarily frustrating game that you just want to abandon?
It’s a tough question to answer. Obviously, we implement the difficulty and challenge for that sense of satisfaction when you overcome the hurdles. When designing a game – when you start to take away all of the reasons for not playing, so if people say this is too hard, so I’m going to take away the difficulty, or this is a nuisance to do, or a pain to do, so I am going to take away that aspect of the game so that you don’t have to face that nuisance – you no longer really have a game anymore. I think the important part to do, is to implement the difficulty and implement the challenges so you have that added amount of satisfaction when you overcome it. Hopefully, when you implement difficulty to a game, when you overcome it, you can feel the sense of difficulty was worth it. I think that type of reward is important.
Something like Dark Souls, though, we try to implement this difficulty for that added level of satisfaction and happiness when you are able to overcome. But there will be aspects of the game where there are some areas that will be more of a pain to get through than others. I think that balance is something important. It’s hard to answer directly, but we took a lot of care in terms of tuning each instance of the so-called challenges so that we reached an overall good balance throughout the game.
Do you think the word “accessible” automatically translates to “easy”?
No, we don’t actually. The reason why we used the word accessible was not to say that the game is going to be easier by any means. We’re maintaining the difficulty and we think the challenges are required. What we meant was, there are certain aspects of the game where it didn’t really have a direct connection to the sense of satisfaction of overcoming. There were things that were a little bit time consuming or a little bit tedious that we wanted to streamline – sort of carve away all the fat so we could really deliver the lean pure expression of what Dark Souls tries to communicate, which is the sense of satisfaction of overcoming. In terms of accessibility, what we meant was a more streamlined experience to deliver the more pure essence of Dark Souls.
What are some of your favorite current games?
A couple of the games I really was hooked on was Diablo, and recently Skyrim.
Are you playing any mobile games or have any mobile recommendations?
I play mobile games more for, I guess research. I’m not sure if it’s available in North America, but we often play a Japanese game called Puzzle & Dragons.
Have you ever broken a controller in frustration?
I have been frustrated a lot, but I haven’t really broken a controller yet.
You’re a new director for Dark Souls. What are you going to do to make it your game? What will define Dark Souls II as a Yui Tanimura game?
Throughout the game, there are going to be a lot of different small things that I will direct and will be implemented due to my personality or direction, but the biggest part I feel that will characterize this game as the game that I directed will probably be the game balancing. I take care of a lot of the balancing of the game – with the difficulty, the trickiness, of the frustration that you feel. I intend to spend a lot of my time trying to balance placements of the enemies, the parameters of the enemies so that players can face that difficulty, face those challenges, but also conquer enough to sense that satisfaction. Balance is probably the most important part of this game and I feel responsible in balancing the game, and tuning it to the finest details so that Dark Souls II will be the best experience so far in the series that we’ve created.
Any Xbox One or PlayStation 4 plans?
Currently we’re only planning for Dark Souls II to be on the current consoles. At the very initial stages, there were discussions about bringing it on next-gen, but we felt that the current consoles still had a lot of potential to deliver Dark Souls II, and we wanted to get Dark Souls II out as soon as possible to the fans.
For more on Dark Souls II, be sure to check out our E3 preview. Dark Souls II is coming to PlayStation 3, PC, and Xbox 360 early next year.
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I'm keeping an eye on this one.
Can't come fast enough this game.
I have yet to beat dark souls... It's a great game but it also is difficult as hell
Can't wait until this comes out. Dark Souls was a blast. Praise The Sun!
ok its on the current platforms good im keeping my 360 after the new gen comes out
Nice little interview. Thanks Kyle!
Once I played Puzzle & Dragons I deleted everything else on my phone. It is the only mobile game I play at all.
i broke one controller playing left 4 dead 2 realism expert mode on the dark carnival lol
Souls were the best games this gen in terms of overall design, replay value, and innovation.
I love Dark Souls but the game is simply too frustrating for me. Great game though.
Sounds good to me, working on balance. Gameplay is what this game is about