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[Update] Rumor Roundup: Nintendo's New HD Console

[Updates at bottom of story]

In the hours following our story confirming the existence of a new Nintendo console boasting high definition graphics, the rumor floodgates have opened. Numerous news outlets and website have published their own reports from unnamed sources in the game industry, each with slightly different intel. We've sifted through all the stories and have summarized them in this Rumor Roundup.

The Hardware
Most of today's information comes from an article published on the French website 01net.com via a story on Develop Online. As Destructoid notes, 01net was also the first to break the story on Sony's NGP handheld in advance of that announcement. The 01net story quotes a "very reliable" source who claims to have inside information on the technology powering Nintendo's next console. The original article was published in French, but user on the popular Gaming Age forums translated it and posted a bullet point summary. The report says the new console is codenamed "Project Cafe" internally and will be revealed at E3 2011. According to the source, the “CPU is a custom IBM PowerPC with three cores, GPU should be an ATI from the R700 family with a shader unit at version 4.1. RAM should be at least 512 MB." These specs are fairly comparable to the Xbox 360's internal architecture, but as Destructoid noted in its report, the 4.1 shader support would be an improvement over the 360's 3.0 shader support. These internal similarities would also make porting titles from the 360 to this new Nintendo console a much simpler process.

Kotaku's sources indicate the new console is powerful than other current-gen systems, but it's unknown if that just refers to the aforementioned improved shader support. IGN's report added one other important tidbit: its unnamed source said the system delivers full 1080p HD resolutions, which is welcome news to HDTV owners. IGN's sources also said that the unit is fully backwards compatible with Wii software. This jibes with Develop's claim that the unit "support[s] all Wii peripherals." French webiste 01net says that GameCube backwardscompatibility is also in the plans.

The Controller

Yesterday, we ran a story based on a CVG report claiming the new Nintendo controller has a built-in HD screen. Today, all reports seem to indicate that the screen is a reality, but there is some question as to whether it's HD or not. The 01net story indicated that there would be a screen, but that it would feature "sub-HD" graphics. However, it said that the screen will be a six-inch "one-touch" (as opposed to multi-touch) touchscreen.

The controller unit has been compared to "iPad with buttons" by Destructoid, but its report stresses that the screen is much less costly and doesn't offer the same level of "power or performance" as the iPad's touchscreen.

More conventional controller inputs surround the touchscreen: a d-pad, L and R bumpers, two triggers, and "possibly more." The unit has a front-facing camera and will also have motion controls. However, the Wii sensor bar has been integrated into the controller, so you would only need the controller itself for Wii remote functions.

The Disc
Like past Nintendo systems, the console is disc-based. In fact, Blu-ray.com has heard from a source that Nintendo is "considering" using Blu-ray (which Sony helped develop and currently uses in the PlayStation 3) as the system's disc format.

The Future
While all the above information is unconfirmed, most of the reports we've seen, including our original story, seem to agree on most of the leaked features and specs powering the new Nintendo console. It's extremely likely the unit will be revealed at this year's Nintendo E3 press conference. Most reports seem to concur that Nintendo is targeting a 2012 release, probably a mid-summer release in Japan and later in the year in the U.S. and western territories.

In addition, the 01net source said there was yet another "big surprise" regarding the unit and its feature set that has yet to leak, but refused to reveal it. In any case, these next few months look to be very interesting for Nintendo fans.

We'd like to reiterate that Nintendo has not released any official word on the new console, or confirmed any of our or other media outlet's report. There is often a "feeding frenzy" mentality that develops in the wake of a story of this magnitude, so it's entirely likely that at least some of the claims being presented are either wrong or significantly distorted.

For reaction from industry insiders on the news, check out this story by Game Informer's Phil Kollar

[Update]

IGN's news director Jim Reilly just dropped a few bits of new information on the new Nintendo system's controller.

This new information came via Reilly's Twitter account. His first tweet said "There will be first and third party 'Wii 2' games at E3. No clue if they'll be playable."

This was quickly followed by two more updates, "Dual analog sticks on the controller. Can stream game content from the console. Not sure if it'll be full games, mini-games, or apps." and "New Nintendo controller allows players to stream entire games to the device from the console -- like a miniature television."

When some of his followers questioned the validity of the claims he responded, "No, I'm not trolling. Calm down. If it's on the site it's legit info we heard."

We checked the last update to the IGN story, and it echoed his comments about the game streaming to the controller, but did not mention the dual analog sticks or "Wii 2" games being at  E3. We'll keep an eye out for further updates.

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Comments
  • I'm intrigued
  • It definitely needs to be called the Super Wii.
  • Augmented reality in tune with the game via HD controller screen...that's what I think! ...but who knows.

  • Sounds awesome, might be my next console.

  • I never even owned a Dreamcast, but for some reason a controller with a screen is really exciting.  If half of these rumors are true, this is a day one purchase, and that's coming from someone who's not a huge Nintendo fan and really found nothing worthwhile in the Wii.  

  • I'm hoping "iPad with buttons" is more a concept descriptor than a size one. An iPad sized controller would not strike me as comfortable to use for long periods of time.
  • Well it would be great if I had the money to buy another console. I'll just stick with my PS3 and 360

  • If it is on par with a 360 and PS3, that will be a failure in my eyes. Hopefully they don't repeat their last mistake, and actually focus on making something that can be enjoyed graphically for years to come because if they are making an "HD" console they might as well go the extra mile. I want to see a Zelda game with graphics even better than Crysis (I'm talking about the PC version). If that happens, I will break my oath and actually buy a Nintendo console.
  • I like the sound of all this... except the controller. I'll have to see it to believe it. Keep the news comin'!

  • Some of the stuff like dual-analog (which isn't really speciaL anymore), Motion Control, and Touch Screen sounds amazing, including HD. But then there's some thats like it really seems like a bunch of bullcrap. Guess we wait till E3. Even if they don't announce the console I'll still buy Wii games (thats good) and 3DS games, and if they don't meet up to the people thoughts most of them will buy it anyway because of the games made by Nintendo.
  • Bummer. Comparable to current gen hardware? That is totally lame!
  • This is exciting. Maybe we'll even see some Gamecube games be remade!
  • I don't think an ipad like controller would be a good idea, and there should be gamecube compatibility

  • If Nintendo starts to use Blu-Ray then Microsoft better. I really like how the PS3 has Blu-Ray disc because of the space on it and how durable they are.
  • can we call it the "Wiiquel"?
  • Sounds pretty impressive, can't wait for E3!

  • The screen controller doesn't sound real.
  • I'm still not buying that the controller has a 6" touch-screen built-in. Has anyone realize that such a thing would make the controller more massive than the original--original--Xbox controller? I see a lot of rumors that are begging to be too good to be true, from a company that has a history of failing to deliver on hopeful predictions. We get rumors and snippets of what a new Nintendo system COULD be, and it's NEVER what is expected. Usually, it's not even close. The Virtual Boy had rumors of projecting 3-D images like a hologram, for cryin' out loud.
  • I'm not going to believe this controller nonsense until I see it, sounds like it may as well would be a cell phone...

  • ok that update sounds almost reasonable, like four swords adventures where you had the gba for the controller
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