Halo Legends

Re: Halo Legends

xD 7ravis — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:34:27 GMT

lol :) off the topic a bit but I really loved the high charity level on halo 2. it felt so right. Not to mention berserker brutes scared the crap out of me on that one. In 3 just hit them in the face and they wont break you in half lol.

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arbiter fan — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:39:28 GMT

that was funny blowing up High Charity

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xD 7ravis — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:04:20 GMT

Thatmay be the next halo, just the arbiter punishing the brutes. While Im not fond of the idea of no MC that could be good. I noticed there are only two types of ships really.....well...one. High charity got blown to bits. I would realyl like to refer to the halo bible on this, but of course were not bungie so thats a no for us lol.

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Triller — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:52:08 GMT

Yeah I think it would be awesome to see what happens with the Sangheili after the Great Scism. I imagine the brutes would have been punished by the experienced ship masters within the Elites command. The brutes weren't spacefaring when first discovered by the prophets so they would not be very experienced with ship to ship battles. I'd watch that as an animated show for sure.

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xD 7ravis — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:00:10 GMT

I must admit, I love waypoint, I often go achievement hunting just for a shiny new level on there, even though they really dont amount to much, it is quite addictive. Im hoping they branch out on the halo lore in the next halo. While I would love to see Harvest in a true sense and not like halo wars where you spend a few levels there and jump away. I think that would be interesting in the line of prequels, but more interesting is what happens now that the covenant prophets have been killed. Something tells me the brutes arent so easily dismayed. I recently watched the trailer for it and I have to say it is the one that is garnering my attention, mainly because Ive always wondered about the sangheili(spelling) as a race and not just the warrior elites. The seafaring idea would be very nice to see, even if just in a graphic novelization or perhaps another animated film.

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Triller — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:18:45 GMT

I think 343 understands what they are taking on here. Waypoint has been a great addition to the ways we collect our Halo knowledge so I think they know what they are doing. It will be interesting to see what the next game will be like if 343 and Microsoft Studios does it. I still think that Microsoft knows how much this franchise is worth and that they would not spoil it in any way.

I was interested as well in "The Duel" episode but I was a bit confused by it. I originally thought that Elites were a seafaring race who were similar to pirates. It is in one of the books. I want to say "Ghosts of Onyx" but I am not sure. I would imagine that the culture shown in "The Duel" is that of the Elites after they became part of the covenant. After they had evolved further. I would like to see a depiction of a seafaring Elite race in something like Halo Legends. Would be pretty cool.

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xD 7ravis — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:06:04 GMT

I have no idea. It makes for a good discussion though. Im really curious about the one that tells the elites story...I believe its called the duel. I dont know. Theres a lot going on for halo this year, I guess its Bungies way of seeing it off as 343 will be taking over the franchise. I hope this isnt an activision/infinity ward-esque move on their part.

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Triller — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:30:11 GMT

I don't recall anything about that Elite becoming the Arbiter and I wouldn't imagine he was shamed enough to be deemed Arbiter. His commander did not look highly upon him because he survived a Spartan encounter which is a huge shame to escpae from a battle instead of winning it or dying in it. I don't think his cowardess would have reached the High Council to a point where he would become the Arbiter. Again, just speculation.

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xD 7ravis — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:45:57 GMT

yea, but storyline wise he couldnt have been beat, so I would have liked to seen how how would have beat the elite. I didnt forget that part, I just think they could've made an awesome finishing move for him. Oh well lo., and wasnt that elite said to become the arbiter?

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arbiter fan — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:14:43 GMT

well even mastercheif said he was going to loose to the elite so maybe mastercheif's luck saved his sorry ass

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xD 7ravis — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:04:36 GMT

It kind of sucked the way the sword duel was cut short, I kind of wanted to see how master chief was going to beat him down with his own skull or something just as awesome, but that one episode has me hooked

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Triller — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:30:22 GMT

Action wise, The Package is the way to go for sure. Its pretty much constant awesome.

Re: Halo Legends

xD 7ravis — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:45:09 GMT

Alright Im hearing great things about legends, Ive deemed it a must come next pay day. Plus I just watched the package for the first time and it was epic, I hope theyre all as great. The firefight between the spartans and the package was just awesome. Sorry to add somethign that has nothing to do with origins, just want to see if people think the package was one of the better ones or if it wasnt the greatest. Origins sounds the best story wise, especially if it divulges anything about forerunners.

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Triller — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:33:54 GMT

Also, I don't believe I missed the point of the episode as it was to explain what Cortana had learned from the Gravemind about the forunners. Thus the title, "Origins". The episode, a very epic episode, was not created to show how Cortana was becoming rampant, but it did have a hint. She is questioning her rampancy wondering if it is setting in, but this episode is not about Cortana, it is about the Origin of every race in the Galaxy. That is the point of it.

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Triller — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:28:06 GMT

I think you are referring to Mike when you say keep it civil. Not to tattle, but he did call most everyone an idiot. lol Also, my name is Cougan Waddell but please call me Triller.

Now, I know she is going to change. I said that in my last post, I just don't believe she will "change" in the way other AI do after their 7 year cycle because of the things that make her unique. Again, I don't think she should be referenced along side other AI only because she isn't like other AI as I stated in my last post.

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Thurmz — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:20:15 GMT

Oh and sorry I said she was going crazy and was going to die. I know its technically called rampancy and I knew she wasn't going to technically die I just mispoke, and didn't think anybody would be up in arms. Anyway Cougan Wassell you're not the only one with Halo knowlegde lets try and keep it civil.

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Thurmz — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:11:11 GMT

Cougan Waddell you are missing the point of the episode. While we may not want cortana to fall in rampancy(crazy same difference) her seven year life cycle is pretty much up. She will not die no but she is changing and she will continue to change as time goes on. This is the direction Halo 4 (if we ever get it) is headed. Master Chief is about to land on a strange planet and cortana is losing her marbles.

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Triller — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:33:11 GMT

Well I agree with the assessment that Cortana is becoming rampant and as Mike stated, it is a 7 year lifespan, I have to disagree that she will fall into rampancy the same way other AIs inevitably do.

Cortana can not be compared to other AIs for one simple fact. Cortana is able to openly express her feelings and react to them based on experience. As stated again by Mike, basically, not being human or not being able to be emotional is a cause of rampancy. Now I would have to argue that without emotions AIs begin to wonder what their purpose is and why they are here, and this continues their downfall into rampancy. But here in lies the difference between other AIs and Cortana.

Cortana expresses her emotions whenever she "feels" like it. Cortana is not looking for why shes here or what her purpose is, she already knows. Master Chief is her rhyme and reason and this is why I believe that Cortana will not enter a rampant stage that is uncontrollable. Boredom will be a problem as they drift through space but Cortana knows better than any AI what is lurking in her shadow. She is an already emotional AI and that makes the difference. If emotion is a sign of rampancy I would have to think that shes been insane this entire time.

Of course this is all theory based on other AIs, mostly Sif and Mack as well as the fact that I think the series would suffer a bit with the loss of Cortana. Cortana knows her purpose and as long as The Chief is alive, Cortana will not lose this purpose.

And I agree with Mike that the planet at the end of Halo 3 is the Forunner home world. The maze like designs on the surface would suggest Forunner.

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arbiter fan — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:08:45 GMT

lets see: first it was captain keyes, then his daughter, then sergeant johnson, and soon to be cortuna. oh wait... i am forgetting doctor harsley and the other spartans. and he is suppose to be lucky.

WEREN'T SO EASY

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Mike — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:23:24 GMT

Oh, and if you haven't noticed I'm back to this forum to set a number or issues straight. I have all of these forums linked to my e-mail account, so all day long I get these stupid updates on my phone hoping that some intelligent people with Halo knowledge will say something right. Most of you have failed (Triller, don't worry, you're not one of these idiots) Enough is enough. When you say something stupid, trust me, I will make sure you know how stupid you are. That is all.

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xD 7ravis — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:18:33 GMT

argh! *plugs ears* LALALALALALA! Cortana can not ever die! LALALALALALALA!!! And I didnt like the way she acted in 3, especially the flashbacks. Annoying. :/ Dont say cortana will die, I would rather have crazy cortana than no cortana. I mean the only other AI Ive dealt with is serena, and she sucks. So bitchy. Plus thats basically master chiefs only real friend now that johnson is dead. Poor chiefy Dx

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Mike — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:16:54 GMT

Nobody said she was going to die or be decommissioned (except the moron up there who thinks she already dead...idiot). I said in a normal situation, meaning if Cortana and the MC were back on Earth or some other place where she could be evaluated on her condition, then she would be decommissioned. That's just a fact. A smart AI (such as Cortana) is not allowed to live past her 7 year life cycle. It's just too dangerous to allow a smart AI get that close to rampancy because in a number of situations a smart AI could kill an entire crew aboard a battle cruiser or prowler (other situations I could mention, but there's no need). She's is completely alone. We don't know how long it will be until she needs to wake MC (days/weeks/months/years). HOWEVER, when she does wake him, MC will be in for quite a surprise when he finds his very close friend in the state she will be in.

And it isn't a question of IF she is going rampant because she IS. That's fact.

Think back to Marathon days. If you know the story you know what I'm talking about. Things are going to get very interesting when MC wakes, finds his close friend is friggin nuts AND he finds himself on the Forerunner home-world (if you watch the Legendary ending you see a planet, I will stake my extensive knowledge of the Halo universe that the planet is none other then the Forerunner home world...any takers?!)

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Gregg — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:17:27 GMT

Cortana is a smart AI, and there isn't any other AI in the Halo universe anything even remotely close to her. Her thought process, likeness, and intelligence is based entirely off of the brain patterns of Dr. Halsey. Being as 'powerful' as Cortana is, she may be suffering from Rampancy, but she isn't going to 'die.' Bungie knows that she is a drawing force of the Halo series and that she is a primary character. She started going Rampant during the final events of Halo 2, when the Gravemind had her, but she still came back and was capable of communicating with Chief despite her falling apart after her time with Gravemind. She's not going anywhere, and her Rampancy is not going to kill or decommission her. Don't worry. Just like Master Chief, Cortana isn't going anywhere.

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Mike — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:04:54 GMT

Hrmmm...technically you're right. She is going "crazy." The correct terminology though is called rampancy. See a smart AI, such as Cortana, has limited memory that cannot be replaced. The more they [smart AI's] fill up their memory with data, the less space there is for processing thoughts. Rampancy occurs when the AI becomes consumed by its own interests and focuses its processing power entirely on itself, literally thinking itself to death. However, this "death" is not how you and I think of death. The AI does not simply stop existing. They just exist in a state that is no longer who there were.

Most common fundamental truths that lead an AI to rampancy include:

-That their mind is limited

-That life is short

-That they will never be human

Usually a smart AI is surrounded by people, so that once their 7 year life span has run its cycle, they AI will be decommissioned.

Cortana is all alone with the Chief, so there is no one to shut her off. When Chief wakes up...he's in for quite a surprise.

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Thurmz — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:42:31 GMT

A smart AI such as cortana only lives seven years. After this the smart AI's pretty much go crazy because there is so much information going on in there heads. At the end of Halo 3 cortana has actually been alive for seven years. In the episode origins they are hinting that cortana is starting to go crazy and die. She's not dead yet but may soon be.

This is supposed to make you think about the future of master chief. Who will wake him if cortana is dead. And what will Halo be like without cortana. Also what would cortana do in the fragile mental state she's in. Maybe she'll try and kill the chief by turning off life support. All speculation though. But the fact remains cortana is dying.