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I don't even believe Bungie is capable of making good games anymore. And great quantities of gameplay have been released already for both Black Ops 2 and Borderlands 2; my judgments are perfectly logical, but even if I wasn't certain at this time of their potential, I'd still end up being right in the end, because Vulcans are very good with calculation.
Woah woah woah!!! Bungie is not making Halo 4, so why even mention them? 343 Industries has taken over, in case you somehow did not know. Also, did you read the review of Borderlands 2? Even if you do not like it, you can't say it is a horrible game, because clearly you are in the minority!
Sorry, I think I may have misunderstood your comment about Borderlands 2. Other than that, though, my point still stands.
No, you read me correctly that I believe Borderlands 2 isn't that great of a game. Many people base 90% of its potential on open-world exploration. But let's face the facts, exploration in itself (i. e. walking/driving around miles of deformed terrain) isn't at all rewarding. You may think contrary because of Minecraft's success, but even MC is much more than that; you're constantly creating, destroying, and collecting items as you ''explore.'' Really, all that anyone has to be excited about for Borderland's 2 is its plethora of guns and various upgrades (which don't change the gameplay very much unfortunately).
Yes, I read the review, and it confirms my observations. But when you say, ''the minority,'' you're really only talking about its sales numbers, and positive reviews (which are no more valid than use-reviews, since even ''professional reviewers'' are just users). I think that even the most rabid Borderlands fans yearn for more innovation in their favorite franchise, and I firmly believe that the number of sales it reaches will be much, much less than the amount of people still in search of a truly rewarding gameplay experience elsewhere.
You said, ''...you're just assuming that 343 can't make a game as good as Bungie.'' I was just clarifying that I no longer have very much respect even for Bungie anymore.
Then who do you think could make a good game?
You're being very selective in your reading of the Borderlands 2 review. The character customization is profound, the humor writing is excellent, the world is rich, the UI is improved, and the gunplay is tight. All that was described in the review, and I own the game, so I can personally attest that from what I've played, it is all true.
I don't want to argue anymore... Please understand that I am not saying your opinion is invalid, I'm just saying that you shouldn't judge a game before you've played it.
I personally like exploring, which is why I like open world games. I love going where I haven't been before, finding new places, the thrill of exploring, or in your words Spock, walking/driving around miles of deformed terrain. It is enjoyable for me, there is no need for it to be rewarding for it to be enjoyable to me. This is just me though, so I don't expect to have everyone agree with me, we're all going to enjoy different things and what I find fun you might not. But Spock, DON'T criticize our preferences as if we're ignorant, and are completely wrong for having our own unique preferences. I respect your opinion, but I don't have to agree with it, as you don't have to agree with mine, but I request that you respect our opinions and stop making it sound as though yours is superior to ours.
This is all I'm saying on the matter, so enough of that!
Zarg, sell me on Borderlands 2. I've been thinking about trying it , but I don't really know what it's like. I don't really keep up on the latest games, old habit I guess. Does it have lots of gun? Destructible environments? Open-world gameplay? I've been looking for good FPS for sometime now with all those things.
Now you're playing with power!
"Does it have lots of guns?" It literally has millions of guns, if you think that is an overstatement, it's not! It is open-world, and there are tons of quests that will keep you exploring to find more. It's not incredibly destructible, but there are a lot of small objects you can destroy. The art style is incredible. If you've ever played a Diablo game, then you will be familiar with the insane amount of looting in the game. Also, the humor is top-notch, although a little crude at some points. Claptrap can tell a mean "Yo momma" joke. There is a lot of character customization, and all three classes are relatively balanced and very useful.
Iv'e never played a Borderlands game, but it sounds like Mass Effect withdifferent themes. I'm definitely interested, but I dont have yhe cash to pick it up just yet, so I'll probably borrow it from a friend if I can first.
It's Closer to rage. It's really cartoony though
@Deception: Same here, I never played the original, never had anything that could play it till recently.
@Zarg: Lots of gun? Sold! Personally I like a verity of weapons, weapons that suit my play style. Open-World? Sold! Quests? I don't need no stinking quests to make me explore! If anything I'll ignore the quests to explore on my own haha! More often than not that's how I play in Skyrim. The art style is very interesting to me.
I've never played a Diablo game before. Tell me a bit about this "looting" you speak of. All in all, I think you sold me on it. One final question though, first or third person?
You collect tons of guns, ammo, and items from fallen enemies, containers, and the environment. Also, first person
First person? You, good sir, have officially sold me on the game.
Volt, it's all right to have personal preferences. But in my case, since I'm a species that is dedicated to understanding and learning from all things, I just can't allow personal preference to cloud my judgment of what truly makes a game great; I prefer the objective approach, where there's always a reason for each of my opinions on any given part of a game.
''The character customization is profound, the humor writing is excellent, the world is rich, the UI is improved, and the gunplay is tight.'' These are, in fact, all given to one's own bias. I don't condemn you for it. I just don't agree with it because there is no evidence that supports what you're saying.
And to answer your first question, Zargo, I believe anyone could make a good game with the proper direction.
And to clarify, I will definitely end up buying both Borderlands 2 and Halo 4; I just won't enjoy them as much as others.