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Most Common Problem Here, That i see

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  • I already Blog about it, and Started a Convo with a Mod about it. But then i remembered this part of the site, so i'll just leave this here.

    http://gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/mytho_blog/archive/2009/11/19/most-common-problem-here.aspx

    Might get a little confusing where to Comment so just leave them here. I'd say but you'll probably do whatever feels good haha.

    "Let it all be,"

  • Mytho:

    I already Blog about it, and Started a Convo with a Mod about it. But then i remembered this part of the site, so i'll just leave this here.

    http://gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/mytho_blog/archive/2009/11/19/most-common-problem-here.aspx

    Might get a little confusing where to Comment so just leave them here. I'd say but you'll probably do whatever feels good haha.

    Linkatize me, Cap'n!

    As for the topic of your blog, I'm not sure what my thoughts are. Doing away with the Forums altogether is something I simply don't agree with. But perhaps the Groups should be integrated into the Forums more directly, because you're right, that would definitely cut down on duplicate threads.

  • Thanks for link'in me there. But yeah that would still work too!

    The First idea is never perfect but with enough teamwork it can work!

    "Let it all be,"

  • It's an interesting idea.  I'm with Smash, I don't want to see the forums completely done away with, but the idea of encouraging more group involvement is an interesting idea.  

    Now once silver members are able to create groups (it's still in the works), I think it would be reasonable for us to create a new group for each new game, and maybe have a mod edit the first post of the official forum thread to include a link to the group.  

    Still, the problem comes down to new people figuring out about groups and the main forums and how to properly use each one, and to that end there's still going to be a lot of duplicate threads created in the main forums, and I bet there will be duplicate threads in the group forums as well.

    That leads to another problem.  The mods have their hands full enough as it is with the main forums, keeping track of what will eventually become hundreds of groups will make things even more difficult.  The mods should have time to interact with the forum members, they shouldn't be spending their whole time online moving and locking threads.

  • Alright so, As Mr. SmashterMiester stated; if we could integrate the Main Forums and Groups. Why we have both seems a bit redundant to me. So in the spirit of Keeping Main Forums alive. What if,  down a level from the Main Categories In General Gaming, You still have what looks like the Official "Whatever" Game Thread. When you click to access that one Forum it brings up something that looks like these Groups. So Users can create their different threads about different discussions about that Game? Instead of having one Large Forum on that game that will have different discussions going at once?

    Now about new users, what if we(well the Mods) Made it so that new users can only comment, post blogs, reviews, everything that you can normally when you enter the site. But Not allowed to make another Forum? That way they can go around, look through the site. See how things are working. Then after enough comments, and they reach X Level they can then start their own Discussion forum?

    To address the Mods' work load increasing; I don't think they would have to worry much about duplicate threads going around with the above implementations. As well as dealing with Old Threads don't they usually get deleted after a certain amount of inactivity? Also i know Mods work the Whole site, but what if they had Under Mods? Assistants that where assigned a part of the Forums? So there would be the Boss Mods, Sony Under Mods, Microsoft Under Mods...etc. So their work load is lessened?

    "Let it all be,"

  • I think the big problem is that the forums are used as a senseless discussion board. There are a handful that have purpose and used with intent to solve issues but there seems to be a lack of way to really home in on which forum is to be used for certain things. The suggestion here seems to be to convolute the process and in my opinion that would serve as more of a detriment to the point of a forum.

     

    Forums are rather archaic in terms of Web 2.0 philosophy and moreso to the impending Web 3.0 philosophy.I understand that certain forum behaviors are a game to people, like the "what if game?", "rate the avatar above you", or even 'corrupt a wish' but those are staple forum things and can sometimes be traced back to BB days. And, really... does anyone really care so much about 'what if' and 'corrupt a wish' that they'll be missed if taken out? It's true, the observation that a user doesn't know what they want until they get it but it's equally true that a user doesn't know what they don't want until they don't have it. It'll ruffle some feathers but they'll cope and create a new way to achieve their goal. In short - we don't really NEED forums.

     

    So... here's what I suggest:

     

    1.) Disband forums as they are in mass and keep the basic ones like site feedback and bug reports other such very general discussions. The "Official" forums are generally only as integral as the game is popular. Very few people data mine a forum because answers within them are unofficial, speculative and the blogs contain more facts on a specific topic (not to mention it's the driving force in user generated content as it pertains to GI)We've got the 'conversation' feature in place already and they more or less serve as letting people know about things 'in passing' as opposed to stuffing multiple emails into the inbox of the staff and site admins.

     

    2.) Add the feature to invite other members to the conversation by conversation participants. This would allow a forum topic to gracefully die off without cluttering the site. It would mean that conversations are private and some conversations would be repeats akin to duplicate threads, but it wouldn't matter if a thread was bumped or if there were duplicates because people do that anyway irrespective of the amount of time and effort spent on stopping is involved. It'll let it happen without pissing off a lot of other users or and keep it less visible. Sure, conversations may then be less open, but really... it would reduce the level of flame baiting and work on the part of the mods. This would also mean that people don't get a flood of emails telling them that a forum they stopped into had a remark that they'll go look at and discover is irrelevant or pointless. A Conversation between a group of people generally stays on topic more than a forum.

     

     

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  • I just did a really long post about MW2 and now it has been erased game informer needs to alert you about this stuff.

  • @oatmealjoe,

    just a tip - in the future when you write out really long posts do them in Word first and save them. Then if they get erased, barring reasons of inappropriate language, or making absolutely NO sense, you can repost them.

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