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honestly, GI is not as ballsy as it once was, i even remember using various mild curse words in their publications, because they were a grassroots hardcore magazine that never gave out tens, unless totally deserved, and gave two *** about advertising old spice. they'll never not be what they are from now on, they'll never go back, and i guess if they did, they'd fall along the wayside. it's just depressing that success does that to a company... at least they're still a solid mag. but for the most part, they've fallen in comparison.
Have to disagree with you there, Joe. The quality of games in general is better, due in part to the shelf life of current gen consoles and developers familiarity with the hardware, but also to the maturation of the industry. Many games now are at least decent quality if not good or better, which is a sea change from just a few years ago when most titles regardless of console duration could be considered mediocre or worse. Plus you have to consider that staffs change, and as they do so does the subjectivity. Now in terms of language I suppose you could argue they're not as edgy or daring in that department but frankly they've always been head and shoulders above the competition in terms of professionalism. When other mags were making crude, sophomoric jokes throughout their pages, GI always took the high road and demonstrated a measure of journalistic integrity all other industry publications lacked. Anyway that's just my opinion. I'm actually a collector too having hundreds of titles (as with films) but I've gotten to the point where it's too many and I regularly go through and remove titles. That said, I hate gamer labels but frankly while I love gaming I do recognize it is my hobby not a vocation. So if that makes me less than a gamer, I'm OK with that. ; )
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well, i can respect your opinion, and you bring up several good points, but i am of the opinion that creativity has gone the way of the dinosaurs, that much like movies, that have become conglomerates that are doused with millions of dollars.. all so we can sit at home pre-masturbation and cut off the heads of some zombies? i mean, i dunno, it's just... ludicrous, and to talk about the maturity of the gaming companies is a joke. they are toy makers, that's what they are. some that have the passion to make a game regardless of the money, that are conveying a message, and there are those that are just making toys. other than that, it's hard to sit here and think of the business of entertainment in any sense other than say, books, has deteriorated. anyway, the only part of the industry that's fun is the indie side. i don't want to spend seven years for a game that is of questionable end, as an adhd kid, i know how to go through a game, and how to criticize them to a point where i move on to the next. and very few have held me, held my attention. those few were products of nerds, pure and simple. guys at home that would make the game either way, just so they could make it right. and if you don't think that some of the older mail responses were some of the funniest and least unchained things i knew as a kid. shutting up. i've probably contradicted myself 60 times already.
LOL no only a few times. Kidding. No question the indie side shows more creativity and enthusiasm, as new blood is more likely to take risks and experiment. Likewise as with film we are seeing the studios release sequel after sequel when it's not in fact rebooting a franchise. That said, I still have confidence in both mediums in general. I do think video games are better all around, and while movies are going through a dearth of creativity as happens every so often, we do still get well made material and even interesting material. Indeed, I'm excited for both mediums as I envision them becoming one down the line where interactive cinematic experiences are the wave of the future. Of course money will always be the biggest part of the equation and dictate content to a large degree, but both mediums are becoming more democratic especially with capital sources like kickstarter or the internet as an increasingly viable medium. The point being that more and more voices are getting heard which will guarantee good content and challenge studios to think outside the box every now and then. Yes there will always be toys to play with, but more mature and compelling entertainment too. IMO. ; )
nah, the more voices that are heard, the shittier the game. i want one or two guys slaving at this game to make it perfect, not a team that makes games to meet a deadline. I dunno, that fundamental part is between us. I think that big business corporations, and gaming companies that have sold me discs of plastic multiple times, without me always knowing what i'm in for. 600 dollars for a console, and 60 bucks a game, yeah, that's really looking to the gaming community with love. no, they look at us as we are, unpleasable pink dough monsters that eat junk and swill soda, and buy every seedy game they can come up with a re-release for. Also, you tell me a movie that's big budget that actually was GOOD on several levels, released in the past year. one of the few big budget games i can think of that was worth it, was shadow of the colossus. but you know they LOVED what they were doing. that game was crafted by a master, they didnt just throw money at that. and it shows. but remember, i want a movie. also, it is ludicrous to spend money on say, WoW and not your children. ALSO when you say democratic, does everyone know how to make a good game? look at our country for example, it's turning to ***, and the minority statistics are changing to match, so, you can't tell me that a melting pot is good for our country, NOR can you tell me a melting pot is good for a game. you don't take 40 people and have them vote on whether he has shoes or not. ffs.
"Unpleasable pink dough monsters that eat junk and swill soda" -_-
I resent that...i'm more of a peach color! On a more serious note, I do agree with many of the points presented by both you and Kyle, but i'm of the persuasion that loves both the indie title slaved over in the confines of a tiny garage, and the corporate gamer chow that gets pumped out fierce and frequent so that we eat it fast and have room for seconds. While the larger companies do put in effort...there is a definite disconnection from what they used to be...i would like to see that change. Maybe someday we'll see a change for the better; I choose to hold out hope for that day. :)
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You misunderstand, Joe. I meant more people are making games or movies in general whether they're independently funded through means such as kickstarter or part of startups and in that sense we have many more options and opportunity for value. And yes, it also means that we are exposed to quality content from other cultures; think of how many games are made by foreign studios whether in Asia or Eastern Europe or elsewhere and, yes, quality games. Same is true of movies. I think it ironic that you ask for a big budget cinematic success when you argue that such expenditures are sometimes antithetical to quality productions. That said as Star I think kind of alluded to, there is room for the slick big budget productions as well as more original smaller fare. As to our country there are lots of reasons it's suffering (greed, entitlement, litigious citizenry, selfishness, etc.) but none of it is because of immigrants or immigration. If you believe that, than the powers that be in both parties have you in the palm of the hand, buying the scapegoat for their own misdeeds that are currently sending us down the path of ruin.
wait, you don't think immigration plays part in our country's politics? how silly. anyway, just because there are more games, doesnt make it better, hell, i'd rather not have to shovel through undigested gaming ooze for the gems. meh, i'll show all of you! all of you! and i asked you for a genuinely good big budget flick, because it shows that there are few and far between that actually have any relevance in this decade and the decade before! I just wish we didnt spend so much cash on say, pokemon, rather than say, teachers. just like any other type of entertainment, we are slaves to it and THAT will be the real downfall, i may have been putting the blame on all the immigrants, but sheesh, it does change things in the economy when illegal immigrants come into this country. and I do believe that the majority opinion is often the wrong one. like religion, or the idea that the world is flat. you'll all seeee!!!
I think Joe is onto something...But **** it the world IS flat!!! ;P
(As an aside, i don't consider myself an optimist...more of a realist...if a company makes so many bad games, statistically speaking they are bound to make at least one good one even if its accidentally! :) )
well, you guys are all entitled to MY opinion.
Oh immigration indeed plays a part in politics. As far as I'm concerned that's all it is, is political smoke and mirrors used to cover pols tracks. Silly as it may be. ; ) As for shovelware, yeah there's an element of that but I still think more options means more gems ultimately. And I admit there's a dearth of real quality movies but they always ebb and flow, unfortunately the past few years have been relatively quiet in that department. Though decades? No I think there have been plenty. Kingdom of Heaven, Troy, Black Hawk Down, Minority Report, The Dark Knight, The Departed, Inception, Gladiator, etc. But bottom line I completely agree our perspective is skewed at best and a pile of steaming cow patties at worst; when celebs rake in the dough better than teachers, doctors, law enforcement, hell, even janitors, you know something's amiss. And yeah, majority opinion is not always best. I know that's why they created the electoral college even though it's now part of the problem but poop what do I know? And I wish you were right, Star, but Uwe Boll would have something to say about that. : D
well, aside from your taste in movies, i can agree with some of the few things that you said that were correct like "the" and "if" and "poop" all of those thing i totally agree with.
Haha well I figured someone would at least say "Troy?!" In conclusion, poopy pants.
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