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GI Show 114: Spec Ops, Dawnguard, New Mass Effect 3 Ending

Listen in for everything you need to know about a dark new military shooter, new Skyrim DLC, BioWare's answer to the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy, and the final episode of Roseanne.

Matt Bertz, who reviewed Spec Ops: The Line for Game Informer, is up first. The game is trying to deliver a darker, more thoughtful look at war -- and largely succeeds. Next, Andy Reiner and Matt Miller talk about Dawnguard, the vampiric new DLC for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Finally, Joe Juba stops by to discuss the new endings for Mass Effect 3 that BioWare released this week. There's a variety of new content for fans that were unsatisfied with the original ending, and Joe feels that the new content does a good job of complementing the original game's finale.

Also, we talk about the last episode of Roseanne. It's really weird.

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  • The final episode of Roseanne? This sounds like it will be interesting.
  • Quite a big week for releases if you include the Pyromania update for TF2.

  • Lol, I actually enjoyed Roseanne's ending. Some of the lottery episodes were waaaay out there, but the show wrapped up nicely.

    I also enjoyed ME3's ending(s), and had no problem connecting the dots in some areas.

    ****SPOILER****

    One of the biggest complaints I've heard about the ending is the fact that, with the destruction of the mass relays, the various alien fleets and ground soldiers are now stuck on Earth, and that there aren't enough resources to sustain the increased populace, etc, etc. But people seem to forget that, at the beginning and throughout most of the game, the earth was being invaded by the Reapers, and that most of Earth's population was likely decimated. Add to that the huge battle on Earth and in space at the end, and not only do you have most of Earth's populace wiped out, but a good chunk of the alien fleets and foot soldiers as well.
  • I can smell the weird already

  • no amazing spider-man or walking dead?

  • I may need to go and watch Roseanne, that sounded like a complete mindfuck.
  • How come Roseanne always comes up when Matt's around lol.
  • Death to the Dawnguard. I shall blacken the sun.

  • ****iiiiMASS EFFECT 3 SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!!**** I wish that instead of the three choices at the end of the game, you could just say "I wanna destroy the Reapers, and ONLY the Reapers." It would have been much simpler if, after the meeting with the Illusive Man on the Citadel, the Crucible just hooks up to the Citadel, fires, and all the Reapers are destroyed. And not EVERY FORM OF SYNTHETIC DAMN LIFE, but JUST THE DAMN REAPERS. And if Shepard died because the Crucible needed the energy from the Citadel and the whole thing (Crucible+Citadel) blew up, then I would be perfectly fine with that. However, I am...content...with the new endings. Also, I am thankful for, if somewhat mystified by, BioWare's decision to change the endings. Thank you, BioWare, for making three of probably the four or five best games I have ever played in my entire life.
  • I'll admit it, Bioware actually did some good with the Extended Cut. However, my opinion will always be a bit biased considering the base ending itself has some pretty serious underlying faults that can't really be changed save for retconnig the hell out of them (looking at you literal Deus Ex Machina known as the Catalyst). Definately an improvement but still not quite the ending ME3 deserves; 6.25/10


    Now onto Dawnguard. Pure Awesome sauce. The story was fairly compelling and had a great link to the history of the Elder Scrolls series as a whole, a lot of The characters are fairly well written (especially Serana), the Vampire Lord and Werewolf perk trees really add a new dimension to the game, Crossbows are a wonderful addition especially with horse combat, and while the locations were somewhat sparse they were definately enjoyable (especially the Soul Carin a and Dawnguard Keep). That's not even mentioning the plethora of other additions such as new monsters and other unique weapons/armor. Definately worth the money if you have the Skyrim itch; 8.75/10
  • Did not listen to crap about ME3. It was crap (although better than the original steaming crap it was). Dawnguard is awesome by the way!
  • The Skyrim Werewolves perk tree can be accessed after the DLC is downloaded. I was able to load up an old save and immediately transformed into a werewolf and had access to the new perk tree. So I think it is outside the Dawnguard missions.
  • Really great episode.  They just get better and better.

  • Anyone know when Dawnguard comes out on PC?
  • Joe, what ending did you pick for your main ME3 playthrough?

  • I'm still a bit disappointed that those of us who expressed our displeasure of the ME3 ending in a rational and patient way are still being vilified by gaming journalism as a whole.

    Yes, the fringe Bioware fans, the vocal, obnoxious, howling minority screamed and pouted while making the rest of us who had legitimate, objective, and well-articulated complaints look spoiled and entitled. I'm sorry but no one rallys around the inconsequential minutia about where certain ships were during the climax of battle, or lack of a specific happy/sad outcome, as evidence that Bioware flubbed the ending. The problems we saw were so fundamental and so concentrated within the last ten minutes. A complete tonal and thematic departure from the rest of, what I still consider to be, an amazing tour-de-force of cinematic entertainment. All that culminated in an ending with (SPOILER) a literal deus ex machinima.

    I don't mind that people had differing opinions on what they construed to be a satisfying finale to the ME trilogy. Or that they'll never understand where I'm coming from. I, myself, readily admit that the DLC was much better than the ending we previously got. But I feel that we're being misrepresented because of our audacity to critique something on a a higher level than simple fanboyism.
  • Great podcast, enjoyed all of topics. I was a little wary about listening to the Mass Effect 3 segment, since I don't plan on playing it until most/all of the DLC is out; but you guys skirted around any specific spoilers for it. Thanks again for the excellent Game Informin!

  • Will this be on Itunes?

  • Really enjoyed this podcast especially about what they had to say about Spec Ops: The Line because they fairly criticized it but didn't say it was a bad game which it isn't. Although the only thing I would disagree on is how they said in little words is that there is basically no replay value which I find to be untrue. You can play the campaign in another way by making choices you didn't make before and I found the multiplayer to be satisfying even though there isn't nothing new or revolutionary to it.

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