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In an extensive online post, Microsoft has detailed how you’ll be able to share games with friends on the new console, and whether you'll be able to buy and sell used games.
In advance of E3 next week, Microsoft is addressing some of the thornier questions that gamers have had about its upcoming console. Chief among those concerns is Microsoft’s approach to used games, and whether you’ll be able to share your game collection with other Xbox One owners. It sounds like, in both cases, some big questions still linger.
On the used game front, Microsoft is punting the issue to publishers. “Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit,” reads Microsoft’s post “We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.” Taken at face value, this means that publishers like Electronic Arts and Ubisoft will be allowed to make a decision on a case by case basis about whether used game sales will be allowed for a given game. Publishers could also set up fees for this transfer, but Microsoft claims it will take no part of those fees.
As for game sharing, Microsoft now says that game sharing will be allowed, but in a far more limited fashion than how passing a game to a friend works today. “Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days, and each game can only be given once.” In other words, people who have been newly added to your friends list won’t be allowed to accept game loans, and repeated loans won’t be allowed to the same friend.
In addition, Microsoft has revealed that up to ten players in your “family” can have access to your shared library of games from any console, and you’ll be able to access your full library of games and play them from any connected Xbox One. Rentals and other loan programs won't be available at system launch. Finally, all disc-based Xbox One games will be made available on day one as both retail releases and for purchase on Xbox Live.
Microsoft today also detailed its approach to the always online issue for the Xbox One, and offered a deeper understanding of how privacy settings will work on the new console.
What do you think of these developments about the Xbox One? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
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Also in a move to combat obesity, Microsoft has announced that in order to play a used game in addition to all the other requirements, players will have to preform 100 push-ups in 30 seconds that are to be monitored by the Kinect camera for proper form...
I feel we have a problem with the current gen no one addressed, many games require you to do an update (even without new features) to play said game, and that update requires you to sign (sometimes a new) contract with (sony, microsoft, nintendo) in the form of an EULA, I don't think they have the right to say this game is compatible but you can't play it unless you agree to the following and update your system while we do what we like with your firmware (including in sony's case removing features), even though it says it will work on the *insert console name*. If it requires a separate new contract from sony/microsoft/nintendo, on top of the eula inside the package, that isn't compatible. The thought of having digital games you don't "own" (at least they are better off than nintendo downloads bound to a single CONSOLE even if that gets lost/broken) that can't be resold or traded or loaned, is just the next step, and I think at this point, we have only ourselves to blame if we let it happen. Let them know what you think, and if you (we) don't like it DON'T BUY IT. If we could convince everyone (doubt it would ever happen) to agree on that, don't buy if they don't play fair, they would play fairer to us than themselves.
I have never "modded" one of my 3 currently and previously owned 360's but I will certainly be interested to see what the community thinks up in response to this rubbish...
Buy your own games and make use of demos. Use a friend's game to see if you like it; not to loop hole your way into never paying for games. A lot of work goes into thes games. Don't leach the community.
listen we can gripe n complain n post all we want. bottom line to them is the bottom line. how much money can they pilage from us. only one thing will speak to them.....dont buy the xbone!!!! the ONLY way to fix this mess THEY created is to boycott the console. people can talk the talk but will they walk the walk!!! dont buy it and they WILL have to fix it!!! Feel free to join my facebook group and post how YOU feel about it at Xbox One Boycott. Let Microsoft know THIS IS NOT A GAME!!
I'll keep it simple: I usually get every console from every company, but I'll be sticking with Sony and Nintendo from now on. Would be nice if Sega still made hardware too, though.
I for one won't be buying the Xbox one, I'm baseing this on principal xbox has been ripping off the public for as long as they can make a buck. This used game thing is the final straw, if you buy a car from the dealer and you decided to sell the car, do you have to go back and give the dealer a cut.Well that's what xbox is doing. When the boys is green finally realize were not gonna take it changes will be made. As far as being backwards compatible, I say screw them, they are forcing you to buy new games that you may not want. I'm just sick of the whole thing. Xbox charges fees for every little thing It's time we showed them who pays the bills We the consumer. Sorry Xbox one count me out.
There is NO FREAKIN WAY ! How could a company think they could sell something like this ?
This is totally crazy. Next Chevy will auto lock my car so that when i go to trade it in or sell it. I could only do so with a unlock code and transaction fee!! Anything wrong with this picture. I am pretty sure if Sony follows suit i will not be buying any new consoles next generation. Hello SteamBox! However I bet Sony is sitting back licking there chops waiting to pounce. We will see soon. Do not let these companies take away the games we have collected for years.
This is dumb. This is going to slow down system sale #s because anyone who cant afford to buy multiple games per year is not going to buy a system with so many restrictions on game loans.
Why would I spend money to buy a gaming console that gives me less freedom than consoles I already have?
Depending on how Sony deals with this I'll either be buying a PS4 or returning to PC gaming.
I don't mind the 30 days+ friends thing. I'd probably only share my games with people that have been on my friends list for years. But only being able to share the game once? Come on. It's hard enough to get my games back from people I let borrow them. Now they have the excuse of "Oh, I need to finish the whole game. I can't borrow it again." And my friends will feel the need to completely finish a game before lending it to me (so I can completely finish it).
I hope these companies don't disallow trade-ins. I can't imagine they would force us to keep games that we don't play anymore. I'll just start selling my old games to friends if they do.
Wow way to stick it to Gamefly, Gamestop and Gamers :-( Sure getting greedy now a days. "Cough" Microsoft and EA
What about game rentals? Is the "only borrow it out once" policy going to take effect for those?
That'd be bad news for game rental companies and for anyone who wants to try out a game before they pay next-gen prices for it.
We the gamers allow this BS to continue. we B*** and gripe about it, but then come launch day are in line to hand over our money, and then allow them to keep a strangle hold on our wallets. by allowing them to tell us what we can do with our property. who we can sell it to who we can loan it to. Soon will come a day we see a message at the start screen " please insert 80msp to continue " . "patch 2.0. 100msp. if you decline this path you will be signed out of xbox live", save your game ? 10msp. The point is this rabbit hole will get a lot deeper and more expensive to the gamer, before all is said and done .
don;t look to PS4 to be any better if this is left to publishers ? this desiese will spread cross platform / and i imagine sony will adpot this " good buisnes practice " for them selves .
for them it is. they make no money if you can sell or trade your game to some one else they only make money for the originating sale( when walmart or game stop buys it brand new from them) . for every "friend" you let barrow your game is a potential loss of sale to them. if said friend barrows it beats it then is like " meh. i already beat it no reason to buy it now " then there goes a dallor out the window.
I look for it to get much much worse in the coming years.
I think we're all one big happy sharing family. I do hope Microsoft doesn't make me prove my kinship to those I add as family on the Xbox One...
Aww man, brutal...
So lame that they are controlling what we can do with a video game we bought for 65 bucks. I swap games with friends all the time. Its called sharing. I was brought up to share. Let us share Microsoft. lol. Stop telling me what I can and can not do you greedy monsters.