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A conservative advocacy group that specializes in filing content complaints to the FCC isn't a big fan of the Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association decision.
As I'm sure you're aware, earlier today the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a California law barring the sale of violent video games to children on first amendment grounds. The 7-2 decision has irked groups like the Parents Television Council, which has made its mark by monitoring television programming for indecency and filing complaints with the FCC when it comes across a show it deems lewd and lascivious. PTC president Tim Winter issued the following statement in the aftermath of the ruling:
“When an industry trade group files a federal lawsuit to defend a child’s constitutional rights, the alarm bells should be deafening. It is hard to imagine a more cynical proposition. Sadly, today’s ruling proves the United States Supreme Court heard the video game industry loud and clear, but turned a deaf ear to concerned parents. The Court has provided children with a Constitutionally-protected end-run on parental authority.
“This ruling replaces the authority of parents with the economic interests of the video game industry. With no fear of any consequence for violating the video game industry’s own age restriction guidelines, retailers can now openly, brazenly sell games with unspeakable violence and adult content even to the youngest of children.“The carefully-worded California statute would not have interfered in any way with the rights of the creators of adult games or the adults who wish to buy them; and in fact, it would not interfere with parents who wanted to purchase such a game for their children. Rather, the measure only would have prevented an unaccompanied minor child from buying or renting the product. “Countless independent studies confirm what most parents instinctively know to be true: repeated exposure to violent video games has a harmful and long-term effect on children. Despite these troubling findings, video game manufacturers have fought tooth and nail for the ‘right’ to line their pockets at the expense of America’s children. Today, the Supreme Court sided with them and against parents. “We call on the Entertainment Merchants Association to redouble its efforts for increased enforcement of the industry’s age-based vending restrictions. The Federal Trade Commission and the PTC’s own ‘Secret Shopper’ campaigns have routinely demonstrated an abysmal failure rate for video game retailers to uphold the industry’s own age-based restrictions. With the exception of GameStop, many in the video game industry appear to be either unwilling or unable to prevent the sale of M-rated games to kids. Now with no threat of consequence for failure, we are concerned that the self-regulatory efforts will be violated in even greater numbers than they already are. We will be monitoring this very closely.“The Parents Television Council is proud of its unwavering support for California State Senator Leland Yee’s leadership and legislative efforts to protect children. We will continue to use all the resources within our power to call out unscrupulous retailers. If the federal courts won’t stand for parents, then we hope the court of public opinion will.”
What's your take? Is it too much to expect parents to be actively involved in the purchasing decisions of their children?
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Well, other than my problems with the PTC period, places such as Gamestop already has policies which are insane. Just a year ago, I went to buy Assassin's Creed 2 for myself, being 20. My brother, who was 16 at the time.... was rousted because I happened to have him bring the game over to me while I was pulling my wallet out. The clerk refused to sell me the game because my brother had touched it, thus making it clear to him that I was "Buying the game for a minor" (Even though he was four months from being 17, and thus able to buy the game himself, even though he wasn't) After 4 or 5 minutes of showing the clerk my extensive video game themed wallet, shirt with characters upon it, and the PowerUp Rewards card (In a total futile effort to show him I was a huge gamer and probably not just buying mature games for my slightly underage sibling) he started to get hot under the collar about how the policy could not be changed. So, defeated, my brother and I left the store without my piece of Ubisoft magic. That is..... until we hopped into my car and headed a half mile down to the next gamestop (Don't ask why they have 2 that close.. (They have another in the mall as well, Another quarter of a mile away lol)) and made sure to handle the game with my own hands. So, in the end, I got to assassinate my fair share of Italian Templars, but not before a ton of crap fueled by fearmongering, Supreme Court ruling or not.
"Constitutionally-protected end-run on parental authority."
My a**. There is no reason this should have gone to court in the first place. What is in video games that isn't on TV or in the news? It is not the responsibility of the government to say whether the kids can buy the games or not. That is the decision of the parent. And if the parent lets the kid buy the game and the kid ends up as a psychopath (assuming that video games have anything to do with it, which they don't), it was ultimately the parents fault because the parent let the kid play the game. Sh*tty parents make sh*tty kids, plain and simple.
These people are fools.
In my state at least, if a Gamestop employee sells an ESRB M-rated game to a minor, they are fined $1000. I'm sure the ESRB has to stand for something similar in Cali.
PTC sickens me. You should be parenting your kids. If you were, you wouldn't need that law. More blowhards ignoring the real issues.
They can go and die. And yes I know how immature and juvenile that sounds but it's associations like these that spread all the ignorance about video games. All they succeed in doing is making one of the most versatile and innovative forms of media painted in a bad light.
their argument is invalid. they are saying that its about selling mature content to minors, its not. its about whether or not video games as a medium is protected as a form of creative expression. The First amendment protects the form of communication, not the ideas expressed. if the PTC wants to attack video games they can go after specific products for content but they cannot watchdog the medium.
Screw you ironhanded fascists, I'm going home!
OH NOES! WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO MONITOR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR CHILDREN ARE DOING?! YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY EXPECT US TO DO OUR JOBS, CAN YOU?!
The state should not be regulating morality, that's up to the parents.
to sum it up, ye basically complaining that the government didnt do their job as parents for them. I personally dislike younger children playing games like GTA or god of war, but its the parents job to realize that those games where made for adults and not let their kids buy them.
Apparently these games are forcing kids to go out and buy them. Last time I checked kids cannot drive cars and most of the time don't have money. But who does? Hmmmmm.....Parents? The parents have the the means to transport the kids to purchase these games and usually do the purchasing. It's up to the parent to check out the game, ask questions, and allow them to buy or not to buy a game. There are labels out there on the game for them to look at to see what is in the game.
It is also up to the parent to sit down with the kid and discuss what is going on in the game and what would happen in real life. It doesn't even have to be a sit down serious discussion. Here is what my parents did to me. While watching me play Mario I died. They said to me, ya know in real life you don't come back after you die. Sounds kinda bad typing it, like not playful but it was, lol. Just an example.
Reminds me of parents suing McDonalds cuz it was making their kids fat. ug.
Guess what, PTC? No cares what you think.
Quit your whining and crawl in a hole and never come out.
First rule of parenting: Be responsible for your children.
If you don't want YOUR kids to be playing violent video games, you sure better be keeping track of what they're buying and playing, and ground them if they break the rules.
Government should not be doing this - last I checked, my parents were the ones who had that privilege. Way to go geniuses.
Hey parents, what the *** is so hard about NOT BUYING a game for your 12 year old that is RATED MATURE for 17+?
Honestly, you people *** complain about how your kid plays violent games, yet you buy them for your kid....I don't get it...
just because we don't treat kids like citizens doesn't mean we get to force a kid to not have fun the way they want to. we don't accept communism in america at all
just because we don't treat kids like citizens doesn't mean we get to force a kid to not have fun the way they want to. we don't accept communism in america at all. and it's a parents decision whether a kid gets to play violent stuff or not
just because we don't treat kids like citizens doesn't mean we get to force a kid to not have fun the way they want to. we don't accept communism in america at all. and it's a parents decision whether a kid gets to play violent stuff or not. if a parent lets a 10 year old kid play call of duty, just deal with it. we need to focus on bringing jobs to america, eliminating our national debt, and finishing the war. we don't need to tell parents not to let their kids play what they want. we need to put money elsewhere. this is such a letdown
After reading the PTC's response, I think I'm going to quit games. This world is too harsh, and my brain can't handle the loss of innocence the money-hungry, soul-crushing video games industry wants me to experience. I think I'll just put my head in a pile of dirt. This is my last desperate attempt to avoid the dark, cold world the government wants me to be a part of. I refuse to become indoctrinated into a world of violence, and if I pick up a controller again I fear I'll turn into a remorseless sociopath. I'm going to quit, I swear. Just one more round of Counter-Strike...