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Everyone has something to say about the upcoming Schwarzenegger vs. EMA case, including Postal developer Running with Scissors. Where does the developer stand? It appears that Running with Scissors is tired of being picked on by the media and industry alike. We could elaborate, but the press release below does a significantly better job of shedding light on the situation than we ever could.
Supreme Court To Define Law Regarding Video Games
Tucson, AZ: Video games stand at a crossroads, and Running With Scissor’s franchise Postal is poised directly in the crosshairs. The Supreme Court is hours away from hearing the ironically entitled case of Schwarzenegger Vs. EMA (Entertainment Merchants Association), a piece of mind police legislation that originated with a California law making it illegal for retailers to sell "violent" games to minors.
A frustrated Vince Desi, CEO of Running With Scissors, couldn't believe his company's classic brand was once again being dragged out as the poster boy for violence in video games. "Hypocrisy reigns again, the media and the game industry have chosen to put the spotlight on us and put us in the hot seat, and make POSTAL their whipping boy. It's important that we at RWS speak and be heard from, given the totally misleading and inaccurate article that appeared in the Wall St Journal back in 1997 and has been relentlessly repeated in the years since, becoming urban legend despite the fact that the story is almost entirely fantasy. The press, parents, politicians, and political puppets are missing the real issue here - it isn't virtual game characters, but the Constitution that is being shredded."
The constitutionality of this law, which has been denied by every court to which it has pled its case, goes to the big stage November 2, when the Supreme Court will decide whether electronic games - like films, books and every other form of art and entertainment - are protected by the Constitution's insistence on freedom of speech. Or will Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose entire film career was built around the exploitation of cinematic violence, forever have his name attached to a law that could theoretically have an impact on all forms of creative expression. If the California law is upheld, after all, it could easily be transferred to create censorship in all alternate media.
Eleven states have supported California's bid to demonize video games while eight states have declared their strong objection to the California mandate. Vince Desi added that "one of this controversy's most hypocritical elements is the historical willingness of the game industry to hide behind the 12-year-old POSTAL franchise only to find they now have to defend it". In a market that has produced literally dozens of games featuring extreme cinematic violence and outright torture, the first exhibit in this case will be the eight-year-old game POSTAL 2 that was never intended as anything but a satiric look at the degree to which Political Correctness has come to dominate our society.
Most legal experts doubt that the California law will be upheld in the face of Constitutional precedent, but we'll all know soon enough.
For more information on Postal software and gear, as well as updates on the development of POSTAL III and other POSTAL products, visit our newly expanded site www.runningwithscissors.com which includes links to both our GoPostal and POSTAL Babes sites. Also watch for the latest emailing of Choice Cuts for in-depth coveage of the highest lights on the RWS scene.
Desi makes similar arguments as the Entertainment Merchant Association and other groups who oppose the proposed legislation. It’s still a bit funny, however, to see Running with Scissors get up in arms about their franchise’s legacy in the same press release that promotes their very NSFW Postal Babes website. It seems that Running with Scissors can’t decide if they want to be in the press, or out of it.
I wish you could play Postal in real life :k
But yes, methinks RWS are enjoying the publicity...
This is such a silly law. No one is shoving this content down your throat just let it be. If "minors" are somehow getting a hold of it blame the parents.
I don't think video games were harmful to minors when Schwarzenegger got a big paycheck for providing his likeness in the Terminator series.
Thank you Running with Scissors,for pointing out the injustices and hypocracy of California Law. Hopefully, the people who support this law will get what they deserve: a big fat NO and the chance to see the written law be turned to ashes.
Yet again, another doom an gloom press release from a member of the video game community trying to paint this law as gateway to censorship that could not happen because of judicial precedence. Seriously, how many morons are going to come out of the woodwork to talk out of their ass on this subject? And better yet, how many times is Game Informer going to give them an unquestioned soapbox without even pointing out flaws in the logic?
I didn't know the law was aiming at censorship just mature games being sold to minors which was a pretty good idea(btw no amendment is absolute)
People, Schwarzenegger being an action movie star is irrelevant to the case. One of the main points of Senator Yee's argument is that psychological studies show that the immersion provided by video games affects aggression more than passive media like movies can.
I somewhat agree with the goal of the law. I think that M-rated should be banned from being sold to minors (w/o parental consent), but I think the law should specifically reference M-rated games, rather than using vague, overly-subjective criteria that could apply to any game with a tiny bit of violence.
I have to head to RWS studios and high-five those guys. It's sad the Government thinks that they are aloud to come into my life and tell me what I can and can't play.
If Schwarzenegger was so concerned about viloence in the media after his movie career. Why in god's green earth did he play in "The Expendables" which is the epitome of cliche's and violence.
Wow, there is going to be a Postal III? I think I will get that when it comes out, I LOVE me some political satire at the expense of America!
Seriously though, it sounds intresting.
To all the morons on this post who agree with this law: Thank you. Thank you for supporting something that, yet again, will let the government have more control over our lives. Probably the same people who support the patriot act. You hated Bush, yet you want MORE government in your lives? Hypocrites.
So how about this? While we're at it, why don't we take away the MPAA and let the government dictate what movies are "appropriate" for us? Or let them do the same thing for the music industry? How about comic books? Media in general. Let the government take over all of it, and soon we'll end up like China or Australia where the only games we can play will be Rock, Paper, Scissors.
"But video games are interactive". So that makes it worse? Last time I checked, video games aren't responsible for issues like murder, drug problems, gang wars, or terrorism. So what's the problem again?
Playing video games does not make you a murderer, a thief, or whatever the f*** else senator yee, and the media, claim it does.
Or maybe it does if parents don't teach their children the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REALITY AND FANTASY.
If everyone's so worried about it, why isn't there more people speaking out about the s*** job that parents are doing today? Just shut up.
And to parents, if your 12 year old decides to stick up a 7-11, shoot the clerk, then hijack someone's car because YOU let them play Grand Theft Auto, and didn't watch whatever the f*** they were doing, then it's YOUR fault for being a dumbass and not taking an interest in their "extra-curricular activities".
Would any civil-minded parent take their kid to an r-rated movie? I hope not. If any parents do this, they are bat-s*** stupid and need their kids taken off of them.
"Well I didn't know it was THAT bad". Bulls***. That's why we have the internets to help us make well-informed decisions such as this. Just like any other form of entertainment, there is a board out there looking out for you. The put out rating, describe the content, tell you that THIS GAME IS NOT SUITABLE FOR YOUR 10 YEAR OLD.
If you're too *** lazy to look up the info you need about a certain title, of just too ignorant to the fact that your kid can play whatever the hell he wants too, don't be surprised when you see his body on the 10 o'clock news.
Get your heads out of your asses and PAY ATTENTION!!!
I had the chance to read the bill in full, and it contained a section stating that prolonged exposure to violent video games fosters antisocial behavior in minors. I'm not convinced that this is the case; I played M-rated, violent games from 14 onward and never developed such behavior, I was (and still am) capable of letting what happens in the game, stay with the game. But that's just me, maybe I'm the exception.
Claiming that violent video games generally foster antisocial behavior sounds as unsubstantiated as the claims of video game addiction; games are another form of media. Are movies and music addictive then? Just my perspective.
I would like to point out to those who use the cases of people who kill because of video games, that those people are mentally ill and utterly incapable of distinguishing between reality and fantasy. Besides, does this mean they're going to be able to arrest underage players? Because I can just picture that conversation now... "Hey, what are you in for?" "Theft and assault. You?" "I bought a rated M game" "..."
How are they gonna enforce this possible law? The only way i can see is if they storm our houses at random times and checks for m rated video games played by minors...how would they get THAT to work ? The only other way is stopping it at the retailer which is impossible because you can just get an above age friend to buy it for you in worst case anyways.
I know I'm gonna get burned for this, but if games and industries like Postal and Running With Scissors didn't go TOO *** FAR, then this law wouldn't even be thought about. Honestly, these things are endangering the entire gaming industry. I like to fight in games, but I mean come on. You don't need to show things like rape in games OR movies OR art or anything else.
This is so idiotic , How many times have people been hurt or killed by being influenced by movies about as equal the same times as videogames.
Why is it illegal for a minor to play a FICTIONAL videogame, I know after playing God of War or Fallout I dont have the feeling to decapitate or kill somebody. This is just pointless