I'll wait to see what the conclusion is.

whats next you gong to say its illegal to hang out with friends?

This is complete and utter bull and it really ticks me off. If it does go through it wont solve the "problem" because some M rated games will get shoehorned into T.

These lawmakers are the real criminals. A mass hanging during the Super Bowl halftime show? Yes please!

Sorry it is supposed to be solve the "problem".

Didn't Arnold make a *** career off of movies glorifying bad words, sex and violence? I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Conan the Barbarian and Total Recall aren't being viewed in your local church's bible study group.

This is what you get when you retarded/stupid voters keep re-electing *** bags who want only want to give hand outs to the people. These same *** bags, in turn, legislate the hell out the people because they want power in return.

So am I to understand that if this law passes you will have to be 18 or older to purchase games that are rated M?

If that is the case, then I don't really see the problem with that. It might be the fact that I am an adult and can buy these things (porno, woohoo), but I really don't mind showing my ID to buy a rated R movie or a Cd with a parental advisory sticker on it.

As long as they don't ban the games outright, and as long as it doesn't affect whether or not developers still make rated M games. I remember the big thing about Manhunt 2 being delayed because of the AO rating and the stores refusing to sell such games. Provided that this legislation doesn't have this effect, I don't see a problem with it.

I'm an independent voter, if you're wondering

The government and parent advocate groups always look for the easy out. "It's all those violent video games".

Through out history every medium has come under fire. Rap music (anyone remember 2 Live Crew?), Rock N Roll, Dungeons and Dragons are great examples of this.

The bottom line is such a law only opens the door for more legislation of this nature. Isn't there enough censorship?!

Parents will still buy thes games for kids...because a great many of them don't pay attention in the first place.

I'm a parent and a gamer. So long as parents are involved in their children's lives....they won't be immitating art in life. By that I mean they won't be on the streets jacking cars GTA-style.

If it is really just about regulating M-rated video games, then yes, there is a legitimate argument for either side. However, I was under the impression that California's proposed law was that it would be illegal to sell any violent video game to a minor. Does this mean only M games, or does it mean any single video game with violence? If it is the latter, then even many E-rated games (supposedly ages 6 and up) would become 18 and up. I hesitate to believe that any bill like that could come close to passing, but i don't know the full story.

Yay more retarded laws to impose on the people of the United States of America! Arnold...really? Talk about a hypocrite.

This piece of Republican mind control MUST be stopped at all costs.

So this is like saying that if you buy an R rated movie and show it to your son you will be braking the law? Oh wait, it's just for games? So will this law be applied to other media, or it's just games? Like I said before, what is the difference of buying Killzone, or Gears of War, or God of War, or GTA and then letting your kids play as to buying an R rated movie and letting them watch. If it is for the stores that sell the games they already tell the parents about the rating. That is what the ratings are for. On the other hand, the should fine parents who complain about violence in a game that they bought for their kids even after they read the rating!

Should be the same as bars allowing minors in or gas stations selling alcohol to minors.  If they get caught close them down for a short period plus a hefty fine.

The wording of the law doesn't say M rated material. It says ultra violent material. The wording of the legislation opens up a world of potential problems for developers and sellers. Developers and the ESRB because they have to try and predict what the government might consider ultra violent, rather than just violent. And for sellers, because the law requires them to seperate ultra violent games from non ultra violent games.

And even if it did specify M rated games, the problem with the law is that it opens a door to other, more strict, regulations.

Legal precedent is a slippery slope, best to avoid it where it's not needed.

At this point, I question whether Arnold is a Republican, as censorship is not part of conservative ideals.

@Jacen

I completely agree.  Well said.

By the way, isn't it funny how politicians seem to be able to write legislation that firmly clamps down on the selling of violent video games, but when it comes to writing legislation to firmly clamp down on banks or health insurance companies or Wall Street, they seem to be completely inept, leaving huge loopholes that allows the status quo to be maintained?  Hmmm... I wonder why that is.  Oh, I know, maybe game publishers just need to greatly increase the size of their political campaign contributions.

accidental double post

interesting but the law won't pass