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Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg Looks To Holiday, Beyond

If you follow industry news, you know the NPD Group is today announcing its sales figures for the month of September. It's usually a great time for Nintendo fanboys on the hardware side, while Xbox 360 backers can gloat over software sales. In advance of the data, we had the opportunity to ask Aaron Greenberg, director of product management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live, about Microsoft's outlook this holiday season, whether spring 2010 is the new November and much more.

Going into the holiday season, how would you rate Microsoft’s position in the marketplace?

I think this holiday will be very interesting as we continue to expand and reach a more mainstream consumer, but I do expect Xbox 360 to have a strong holiday and remain very competitive. What really separates Xbox 360 from our competition is the massive amount of exclusive blockbuster games and entertainment that you can only get on our system.  Just on the games side alone we have exclusives like “Halo 3: ODST,” “Forza Motorsport 3,” “Left 4 Dead 2,” “Grand Theft Auto: Episodes From Liberty City” (retail standalone), “GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony” (exclusive downloadable content), and a ton of Xbox LIVE Arcade titles like the recently launched “Shadow Complex.” Then you have to add in things like Facebook, Twitter, Last.fm and the ability to instantly watch movies in Instant on HD in 1080p with no disc or download required. So I would say that with the combination of our exclusive content along with our very competitive console pricing starting at just $199, we continue to remain the best value in home entertainment and feel very confident about our position this holiday.

 Wall Street’s been saying that it’s game over for video games, and that games—unlike conventional wisdom—aren’t immune from the struggling economy. With sales of recent releases like Batman: Arkham Asylum and Halo: ODST surpassing the 2 million mark, do you think that skepticism about the industry holds true? Were we just in the middle of a tough summer or is it indeed a trending decline?

That is a good question – we’ve seen that as an industry we are not entirely immune to the economy, but on the other hand, for Xbox 360, this has been a record year for us. In fact we remain the only platform showing year-to-date growth in console sales compared to last year.  I also believe that like the examples you mentioned, great games will generate great sales. There’s no reason to think that as we enter the fourth quarter of the year, where typically 75 percent of annual console sales happen, that we won’t see strong results as an entire industry. 

 Do you see the inclusion of Twitter, Facebook and Last.fm helping sales this season, or are they just extras for the existing user base?

I believe the innovation we’re driving online is just another proof point for our strategy this generation. If you really step back and think about the continuous innovation we have delivered since launch, it’s pretty impressive. At the same time, it seems clear that this strategy and commitment is at a very different level relative to our competitors. In just the last two years alone, we have completely re-invented the Xbox 360 with things like the New Xbox Experience, and now we are bringing Instant on HD movies with 1080p, Facebook, Twitter, and Last.fm to the living room. By combining the biggest social networks on the planet so all your friends are all in one place, we will change the way you connect and stay in touch in the future. Our commitment to innovation does not stop there, as we are excited to be working hard on an entirely new category of controller free games and entertainment with the addition of “Project Natal.”

What do you think of the iPhone as a gaming platform? Do you see Zune HD taking a bite from those sales?

Our strategy has always been to completely focus on delivering the best games and entertainment experience in the living room and not get distracted by anything else. 

 NPD announced plans to start tracking downloadable games. How do you think XBLA will stack up against the PSN or iPhone?

I think we will do very well in this space, just ask the developers and publishers that have work on multiple platforms. The Xbox LIVE community is huge – more than 20 million active members across 26 countries.  No other competitor comes close to offering the breadth of quality entertainment options as we do on Xbox LIVE and we're confident that it will remain the leading online service.

 Xbox has to have the numbers for every single unit sold on Xbox LIVE Arcade; why don’t you release those sales numbers?

Out of respect for our partners, it is our policy not to break out Xbox LIVE Arcade sales data. If a partner wants to share those details, then they are welcome to. 

This will be the first holiday season this generation that Sony and Microsoft will be competing with similar price points—not to mention the Wii’s new price cut. How much of a concern is that for Microsoft?


It is not a real concern to us – in fact, I can tell you to that when NPD releases September sales later today, we fully expect PlayStation 3 will come in as the console with the most units sold for the month. This is frankly not a real surprise to us or the analysts that follow this industry, as it is typical to see a short term bump following the introduction of new hardware and pricing into the marketplace.  What I can tell you is we remain confident that Xbox 360 will not only outsell PS3 for the full calendar year, but for this entire generation.  It is similar to a game of baseball, it is not about just winning one inning, but instead being able to win the game by consistently delivering across all nine innings. 

I actually think the story here is about much more than just hardware sales. It’s about the entire ecosystem and investing in the future; something we are very focused on.  There is also the whole financial side of the equation that people rarely seem to pay attention to.  Sony, for example, has publicly noted that they lose money on every console they sell and with the price cut, they’re now losing even more money – so even with the PS3 in the market today at $299, you have to question if their business model is sustainable. I believe this generation Microsoft has really diversified the business model and the economics of the industry today is that our business about not just hardware, but also software and services. These multiple revenue streams provide not only economies of scale for us and our partners, but award us the benefit of having a profitable business, which in turn allows us to continually invest in the future and remain focused on delivering new experiences and expanding our audience.

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Comments
  • Good to hear Microsoft is recognizing that the Holidays are entirely too crowded now.  Hold some games back, put some more work into them, and release them the following Spring.  It's a great idea.

  • The entire first quarter of 2010 appears its going to be crowded as well though.  Such a larger amount of titles i am awaiting this upcoming year.

  • If anybody has money lseft after the 2010 gaming season they'll be lucky. But, I imagine that COD: modern warfare2 will still be top-charted.

  • Wow. Totally just blew off the Zune HD... not a good move microsoft, that device has the potential to be better than the itouch if you actually WORK at it.

  • Interesting, but all the rhetoric I'd expect from a rep of any major company. As a personal request, can we get an interview from an industry person not associated with any of the big three companies? I'd like to hear a neutral opinion on the holidays.

  • "[W]e’ve seen that as an industry we are not entirely immune to the economy, but on the other hand, for Xbox 360, this has been a record year for us" (Greenburg).

    I wonder about this, with the economic situation, perhaps more people are staying home, investing their time and money in entertainment such as gaming. It definitely could be a reason for the good sales.

  • It sounded like *** to me. I mean he barely answered all the questions. All he did was brag about the xbox.

  • i can't even afford video games anymore the way the economy is going. just last year i could afford new games and now im lucky if i can get a 10$ piece of crap.in fact i got a ps3 with 2 games on xmas 07 but in xmas 08 i had to settle for two cheap used ds games and im lucky super mario 64 was so good or that christmas would have been a bummer. anyway these places like gamestop and gamecrazy won't be in buissness for long the way things are going because people are going to have to choose if they are going to play games or feed there familys. this is a good time for people who pirate games, i envy you and regret getting ps3 over pc.

  • I would definitly like some more unbiased industry professionals to put in their two cents.  

    Based on their old timeline of having games come out during the holidays and game content during the spring, maybe this summer we'll get some good add-ons to the blockbuster games this summer.

  • While I am somewhat disappointed that they aren't going to be pushing the Zune HD, I do like that they are going to remain focused on the 360 rather than spreading themselves out.

  • no why

  • @Kyros  

    He works for Microsoft, what do you think he is going to talk, about PS3 much or at all, like seen in this post?

  • Just another repeat of 2006. Tough choices comin up this winter...again. Happy holidays!

  • I wonder if the name is going to stay as Natal. With it being shown live on the Jimmy Falon show, I think there are people who will associate it as Project Natal... or maybe they think it's a new system entirely.

  • The ultimate home entertainment experience..... as long as it doesnt break. Well at least my current xbox isnt having any problems... oh wait, holy balls it is!!!!

  • I don't remember hearing much about Facebook, Twitter, and Last.FM. I think its a novel idea, but its not going to get much use. Not everyone is willing to dish out $20 for a keyboard attachment that they will use about 5 minutes a week. So for normal consumers like myself, it will either come down to using a usb keyboard they have at home, (which i will be using,) using the virtual keyboard, (which is unlikely due to the amount of time it takes to use it,) or just not using facebook or twitter.

  • I'm glad Microsoft isn't backing down. Makes me interested in that limited edition console also.

  • Everything from this holiday season all the way up to the beginning of next year seems too crowded. It would be smart to hold some games back.

  • The Zune HD could have a lot of potential. Of course it makes sense to focus on the 360, but they could at least support the Zune HD. He sounded as though he didn't care about it.

  • Wall Street people are idiots any way. If the companies they are working for are not making money, then it must be impossible for other companies to make money. Well they are wrong, and that's what they get for knowing too much math and not enough about the industry itself. I am an Entertainment Business Major. So my focal point is in the industries of entertainment; music, theater, film, games and show production. And I can tell you that the entertainment industry rakes in about 6.9 trillion every year combined.

    That's the one beautiful thing about this country; no matter how bad it gets we will always have something to cheer us up. We as a society are entertainment driven, we will always pay for something that entertains us. Wether it be games, film, music, etc. So stick that in your ivory pipe and smoke it Mr. Wall Street.

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