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How To Save (Or Kill) Your Party In Mass Effect 2



You've already completed Mass Effect 2 at least once – maybe you've even finished multiple playthroughs. Regardless of how many times you've saved the galaxy, what goes on behind the curtain of Shepard's final mission is shrouded in mystery. You know it's good to the get the loyalty of your crew, but why? What happens if you choose the wrong specialists? Why is Mordin so prone to getting gunned down, even when loyal? We talked to the team at BioWare to get all of the under-the-hood details on how the game determines who survives and who is sacrificed during the course of the game's climactic suicide mission.

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  • Wow, I knew that this game went deep but when I got to the final fight I assumed my team survived by sheer divine intervention. It's kinda cool to see my actions kinda placed out before me, takes me back down memory lane, every heart wrenching second of it.

  • with 4 playthroughs under my belt (my all time favorite game this year and possibly of all time) i let my crewmates die the time but realized what i did wrong and never messed up the rest of the time. as for characters dying even after they are loyal, it's basically common sense to decide who to choose. it not at all a mystery, imo.

  • Killing your entire party is way easier and can happen shortly after starting a new game. 1) Return to the Xbox Dashboard 2) Delete the Mass Effect 2 save file 3) Return the disc to your friend. Achievement unlocked and hours of you life saved. Good work soldier!
  • I still need to beat this game.

  • I didn't get what was so hard about it... it was all pretty self-explanatory besides perhaps going through the relay immediately.

    They pretty much explain to you the necessity of loyalty and what character to use...

  • i played tru 2 times one where nobody died and another where mordin died and i cant help but wonder since i convinced him to keep the data on curing the genophage did the data die with him or will the data have survived

  • I didnt know you could save more of your crew besides the doctor. I played through twice but both times I had loyalty missions left I had to finish before going through the relay. Wish they wouldve hinted that at me.

  • i only lost kelly and zaeed in the first playthrough, until i went online i didn't even realize that all of my characters could have died. I thought it was just scripted like that haha. I didn't even know that i had to pick specific crew members for different jobs, i just picked them for the job cause i like the immersion aspect in every game where i can make it seem make sense. awesome game definitely my fav game of all time

  • I haven't finished my insanity playthrough yet...but my first playthrough all of my recruited characters survived.  The crew died, only the doctor survived which upset me cause I think Shepard and Kelly had something going...

  • Nice chart! a couple things I missed that this helped clear up

  • Too hard to read. And a little late. Could have used this a couple months ago...

  • Wow, it's kinda weird how I just completed this game about two days ago, good thing I upgraded my ship!

  • by zielkma
    Friday, June 04, 2010 at 05:21 PM

    I didnt know you could save more of your crew besides the doctor. I played through twice but both times I had loyalty missions left I had to finish before going through the relay. Wish they wouldve hinted that at me.

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    They did. All over the place.

    * The Illusive Man tells you (After Horizon) to get your crew clear of distractions for the mission ahead. (i.e. do the loyalty missions)

    * Talking to Joker about the mission he says there are always things we could improve....until there's not.

    * Talking to each squaddie there's a whole branch of dialogue about upgrades. Since the whole game is about preparing for the Collector fight, things like shields, weapons, and armor are obviously important.

    All that's left after that is simply picking the right people for the right jobs during the fight. Actual tech specialists to do tech things, people that have led before to lead again, good biotics for biotic jobs.

    It's all right there. All anyone had to do was pay attention. If someone didn't, it's not Bioware's fault.
  • i didnt upgrade my ship so jack,thane and tali died before i even did anything

  • Just finished my first playthrough and saved everyone. Most of the decisions were easy (as far as who to pick for what positions) and I had everyone loyal, but I successfully predicted the endgame mechanism without looking at this chart. I figured that as long as everyone was loyal, no one would die that was in my party, and since Tali and Mordin were the weakest combatants I'd put them in my party for the last boss... and lo and behold, they are the first two eligible for random death on holding the line. Woot. The 75G was nice, too. ;)

  • Yea, i was pretty sure it went kinda like that, although i couldnt resist not bringing Grunt along for the Terminator. Grunts awesome.

  • I have been through the mission twice with the vent specialist loyal (both times were Legion) and both times he died. The second fireteam leader was Garrus and he was loyal too. Not sure how that works.

  • finally!!! someone posted a very detailed way to survive the suicide mission. these questions come up ALOT in forums, and im glad they'll have something like this to look at.

  • I like how each decision make sense according to who you want to live or die. Obviously if one of the team mates isn't loyal and you ask something of them, they will probably fail. The whole point of the game was completing dossier and loyalty missions. The crazy point for me to get over was Shepard dying. I wonder how that's going to affect the intro for the next game!

  • On my first playthrough Tali and Mordin died and on my second time around I made it with no deaths and I didn't use the chart. I was pretty proud of myself when I got those 75G.

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